Irene Grant’s conversation with Kari Levitt
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[2] organization in New Zealand. …But we tried very hard not to go to New Zealand. We were invited four times to go and every time until the fourth we said no… So that was that. When we came back we accepted… Donald was offered all kinds of things. We were, in fact, offered a job in China.
[13] I: I think Donald was the first to talk to Szilard about where to go and what to do.
[25] …we were going to apply to Rothschild for a grant to do it.
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[35] K[1]: The biggest mystery then is really concerning my father with this Christian Left thing, because, (…) how is it that Karli got so mixed up with the Christian Left? I can understand how it is that he gave classes on the early Marx, because he was a great teacher and because he believed very much in what the early Marx was saying. But I find difficult to understand this apparent change from someone who, certainly in Vienna, was very secular.
I: Well he was very much interested in little Otto Bauer. He was supportive of him and he was very supportive of Donald. In a sense it was political, because he really thought that Donald was being manipulated by this Jesuit. But that's a different thing…
K: Yes that's different. That's politics.
I: And I think I have to say this. I think he was very impressed, so he should have been, by Zoe and her colleagues in the Auxiliary Movement, because they were very substantial people and they were very keen [36] Christians. Margaret Ronan? and Joseph Fairfield? would talk to him on their own grounds about their Christian faith. I think Karli was impressed with them, quite rightly. So was I. Because they could tell you exactly what they meant. And they acted in character. They stood by him when people were cross with him because they realized that he belonged. Now I can't explain it better that.
K: But you understand that it has to be explained.
I: You could say that, because I knew Karli very well, I don't think he was using these people. In a way it looks like that. But I don't think so.
K: Yes in a way.
I: We didn't feel we were being used. And, of course, there were many people who came from various angles into the Christian Left. They were very much enlightened by the idea that it wasn't this bloody dogmatic Marx that they had to worry about but somebody who was very close to their own feelings and Karli was able to do that. I don't think that's using people. It's recognizing what was in them.
Organizations Irene Grant spoke about
The International Fellowship of Reconciliation (IFOR), Menschheitkämpfer, Society for the Protection of Science and Learning (SPSL), The Society of Visiting Scientists (SVS), The World Student Christian Federation (WSCF), Herrengall 30, The Austrian Student Relief => The European Student Relief, Young Men's Christian Association (YMCA), World University Service (WUS), Student Christian Movement (SCM), Pycombe Corner Group, The Q Camp, .
Persons Irene Grant spoke about
By Alphabetical Order:
- B: Bauer Otto, Benedikt Eugen, Beggs Barbara, Bock Oscar
- C: Cannon Alfred, Casspegg x, the Cornfords
- F: Fairfield Zoe, Fielding Michael
- G: Grosser John
- I: Ingram Kenneth, Father Iredell / Iredale,
- J: Jolly Doug
- K: Kennipcott Helen, Kolnaï Grossvater, Kurz Trude
- L: Lener Fritz
- M: MacMurray Elisabeth, Macmurray John, Macky / Mac x, McConnell Jean, McLean Douglas, Maier Caspar, x Mansfield x, Muir Kenneth, Murray Agnes, Murray Gilbert
- N: Niebuhr Reinhold
- R: Reid Marjorie (née Young), Ridyard Kenneth, Ridyard Norman
- S: Schiff Leonard, Simpson Esther (Tess), Strachey John, Streep Tammy, Szilard Leo
- T: Tatlow x, Tillich Paul, Tissingdon x, Turton Helen
- W: Wesley John
- U: Ullman Helen
By apparition: Oscar Bock, Otto Bauer, Caspar Maier, Eugen Benedikt, Fritz Lener, Grossvater Kolnaï, Doug Jolly, Helen Turton, Esther Simpson (Tess), Leo Szilard, the Cornfords, Kenneth Muir, Douglas McLean, Kenneth Ingram, Agnes Murray, Gilbert Murray, Leonard Schiff, Father Iredell / Iredale, John Strachey, Paul Tillich, John Grosser, Reinhold Niebuhr, x Tissingdon, Tatlow and these people, Father John Macmurray, Elisabeth MacMurray, Helen Ullman, Michael Fielding, Alfred Cannon, Jean McConnell, Trude Kurz, Norman Ridyard, Macky / Mac, Zoe Fairfield, x Casspegg, Barbara Beggs, Marjorie Young (= Marjorie Reid), Kenneth Ridyard[2], Edward x, John Wesley, Helen Kennipcott, x Mansfield, Tammy Streep.
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Date: 1986
KPA: 30/03