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== "Freedom and Technology" - General Comments ==
== "Freedom and Technology" - General Comments ==
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== Introduction to "Freedom and Technology" ==
== Introduction to "Freedom and Technology" ==
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== Robert Owen (2) ==
== Robert Owen (2) ==


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Owen was in a unique position. He was on the same level with sovereigns, the Church, and was even ordering Parliament around. Being Welsh he had an equal social status. (The Tudors were Welsh, had they been English they would never have been sovereigns.) MacDonald, if he had been English would have not have been Prime Minister. England didn't have lower class English Prime Ministers. Wales did not have classes and there is no nobility, so that this was possible for the Welsh. Half of the brigandswere called Owen which is a name as Welsh as Morgan.
Owen was in a unique position. He was on the same level with sovereigns, the Church, and was even ordering Parliament around. Being Welsh he had an equal social status. (The Tudors were Welsh, had they been English they would never have been sovereigns.) MacDonald, if he had been English would have not have been Prime Minister. England didn't have lower class English Prime Ministers. Wales did not have classes and there is no nobility, so that this was possible for the Welsh. Half of the brigandswere called Owen which is a name as Welsh as Morgan.


Owen was a Welshman and had money and could rise to a position of potential influence which twenty-five years later, Cobden and Bright couldn't achieve because they were commoners from Manchester and hadn't gone to Oxford. But Owen needn't go to Oxford. (Write a paragraph on how Owen could rise. This wouldn't occur to G.D.H. Cole but it occurs to K.P.) Cobden and Bright wore black clothes and bowler hats but couldn't get a hearing. They weretje leaders of the free trade movement which was victorious in ten years. The English middle class couldn't be the leaders of the middle class and it was [24] not Cobden and Bright but the aristocracy who went liberal.
Owen was a Welshman and had money and could rise to a position of potential influence which twenty-five years later, Cobden and Bright couldn't achieve because they were commoners from Manchester and hadn't gone to Oxford. But Owen needn't go to Oxford. (Write a paragraph on how Owen could rise. This wouldn't occur to G.D.H. Cole but it occurs to K.P.) Cobden and Bright wore black clothes and bowler hats but couldn't get a hearing. They weretje leaders of the free trade movement which was victorious in ten years. The English middle class couldn't be the leaders of the middle class and it was [24] not Cobden and Bright but the aristocracy who went liberal. [[#mw-page-base|↑]]


== Institutional Analysis ==
== Institutional Analysis ==
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== The Economizing Processus ==
== The Economizing Processus ==
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== Book on Money ==
== Book on Money ==
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== K.P. on Writing ==
== K.P. on Writing ==
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== The Canadian Elections ==
== The Canadian Elections ==
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== Greece, Rome and the Economy ==
== Greece, Rome and the Economy ==
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== Jewish Survival ==
== Jewish Survival ==


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This discovery is due to K.P.'s method. Reciprocity can not be practised unless we have an institutional basis. It can only be practised if the individual in one group has a correspondent in another group.
This discovery is due to K.P.'s method. Reciprocity can not be practised unless we have an institutional basis. It can only be practised if the individual in one group has a correspondent in another group.


The Mishnah is absolutely conclusive and the extent to which the Mishnah excludes gainful transactions is fantastic. P. thinks that this kept the Jews an utterly non-commercial community through millenia. This forced them for a living on the Gentiles (my question, P. agrees). The community was sharply closed.
The Mishnah is absolutely conclusive and the extent to which the Mishnah excludes gainful transactions is fantastic. P. thinks that this kept the Jews an utterly non-commercial community through millenia. This forced them for a living on the Gentiles (my question, P. agrees). The community was sharply closed. [[#mw-page-base|↑]]


== Notes ==
== Notes ==
=== Marx (2) ===
=== Marx (2) ===
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=== Edmund Wilson ===
=== Edmund Wilson ===
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=== Sartre ===
=== Sartre ===
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=== Shaw (2) ===
=== Shaw (2) ===
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=== Dery ===
=== Dery ===
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=== Montague Norman ===
=== Montague Norman ===
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=== The Poor Law ===
=== The Poor Law ===
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=== ''Christianity and the Social Revolution'' (2) ===
=== ''Christianity and the Social Revolution'' (2) ===
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=== ''The Great Transformation'' (3) ===
=== ''The Great Transformation'' (3) ===
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=== ''Trade and Market in the Early Empires'' (3) ===
=== ''Trade and Market in the Early Empires'' (3) ===
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=== China ===
=== China ===
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=== France ===
=== France ===



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"Freedom and Technology" - General Comments

Introduction to "Freedom and Technology"

Robert Owen (2)

[22] P. thinks we should borrow more from The Great Transformation on Robert Owen. Much of it is really needed. The "Discovery of Society” background is relevant and should be brought to life on the Owen chapter and no other. In England this is not accepted (The Great Transformation fell through) but this doesn't hold for America. (They know nothing about anything anyway but the American history of England is a different history from the English. What another country wants to know about a country may be quite different.)

Owen was in a unique position. He was on the same level with sovereigns, the Church, and was even ordering Parliament around. Being Welsh he had an equal social status. (The Tudors were Welsh, had they been English they would never have been sovereigns.) MacDonald, if he had been English would have not have been Prime Minister. England didn't have lower class English Prime Ministers. Wales did not have classes and there is no nobility, so that this was possible for the Welsh. Half of the brigandswere called Owen which is a name as Welsh as Morgan.

Owen was a Welshman and had money and could rise to a position of potential influence which twenty-five years later, Cobden and Bright couldn't achieve because they were commoners from Manchester and hadn't gone to Oxford. But Owen needn't go to Oxford. (Write a paragraph on how Owen could rise. This wouldn't occur to G.D.H. Cole but it occurs to K.P.) Cobden and Bright wore black clothes and bowler hats but couldn't get a hearing. They weretje leaders of the free trade movement which was victorious in ten years. The English middle class couldn't be the leaders of the middle class and it was [24] not Cobden and Bright but the aristocracy who went liberal.

Institutional Analysis

The Economizing Processus

Book on Money

K.P. on Writing

The Canadian Elections

Greece, Rome and the Economy

Jewish Survival

[51] Jewry survived because the tribal institutions were artificially introduced at the time of Nehemiah in order to have background for reciprocity institutions. These couldn't have been introduced unless there were tribal or clan institutions to support them. Ezra and Nehemiah list all the clans in the Old Testament in 445 B.C. When this part of Jewry returned they were artificially organized in tribes. This made it possible to say that now they should have mutual help and the principle of no gain. That couldn't have been done unless there was a clan organization and in principle this never ceased to work. These remained established in customs, and the principles of mutual help and non-gain survived but this couldn't have been done without family organization. Jewry continued to practice among itself a consistent non-gain organization throughout the ages and when the clan was disorganized the community organized itself on a reciprocative basis. There were no transactions among members of the community.

This discovery is due to K.P.'s method. Reciprocity can not be practised unless we have an institutional basis. It can only be practised if the individual in one group has a correspondent in another group.

The Mishnah is absolutely conclusive and the extent to which the Mishnah excludes gainful transactions is fantastic. P. thinks that this kept the Jews an utterly non-commercial community through millenia. This forced them for a living on the Gentiles (my question, P. agrees). The community was sharply closed.

Notes

Marx (2)

Edmund Wilson

Sartre

Shaw (2)

Dery

Montague Norman

The Poor Law

Christianity and the Social Revolution (2)

The Great Transformation (3)

Trade and Market in the Early Empires (3)

China

France

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Date: May 25, 1957
KPA: 45/07