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"Freedom and Technology" - General Comments

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	== "Freedom and Technology" - General Comments ==		== "Freedom and Technology" (2) - General Comments ==
	{{Page \|n°=2}} P. has had time to think about the book. He hasP thought more about the content and why one writes it. It is extremely simple and we are reluctant to write it, while trying to write something else is not possible. To write this book is very much possible. Perhaps one might have some simple article or essay instead, and why it needs a book is not clear. However it might need a book to be fully said. It boils down to two sentences: freedom in an essential sense is not possible in a technological civilization. We have list the essential freedom and the cause is the technological civilization. The <span style="color:white;">white space</span> recognition of this would make all the difference. If we accept this, then the outlook on the world may be changed greatly for the better. Almost all the complaints are an obscure formulation of this same fact or a veiled attempt to escape it.		{{Page \|n°=2}} P. has had time to think about the book. He hasP thought more about the content and why one writes it. It is extremely simple and we are reluctant to write it, while trying to write something else is not possible. To write this book is very much possible. Perhaps one might have some simple article or essay instead, and why it needs a book is not clear. However it might need a book to be fully said. It boils down to two sentences: freedom in an essential sense is not possible in a technological civilization. We have list the essential freedom and the cause is the technological civilization. The <span style="color:white;">white space</span> recognition of this would make all the difference. If we accept this, then the outlook on the world may be changed greatly for the better. Almost all the complaints are an obscure formulation of this same fact or a veiled attempt to escape it.

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"Freedom and Technology" - General Comments

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	P. withdraws the title “Parts of a Philosophical Testament” which we had contemplated last week. (I am much too young for that.)		P. withdraws the title “Parts of a Philosophical Testament” which we had contemplated last week. (I am much too young for that.)

	P. may agree		P. may agree with me that if … […] {{English to type}}

	One approach		One approach is that where Russia is mentioned it would have to be indicated that Russia is in the same boat. […]

	Really what we have		Really what we have to say is a total position - short of that we have nothing … […]

	We take up the new position		We take up the new position of society: for 80 years it meant the poor - crime, insanity, illness, slumification. The real deeper understanding is that there is more involved than one social group which is underprivileged. This group then became … […]

	{{Page \|n°=8}} but it doesn't completely answer it. But what difference does this make?		Socialism formerly was the answer, {{Page \|n°=8}} but it doesn't completely answer it. But what difference does this make?

	A book with the early Marx is of world interest. All this is effective only if the reason for writing it becomes transcendently great.		A book with the early Marx is of world interest. All this is effective only if the reason for writing it becomes transcendently great.
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	The Marxist and the capitalist position are fundamentally the same. They insist on accepting a dichotomy of man as a material and as a spiritual being. This is denied psychologically and biologically, {{Page \|n°=9}} e.g. you can't grasp a knife unless you relate yourself to space etc.		The Marxist and the capitalist position are fundamentally the same. They insist on accepting a dichotomy of man as a material and as a spiritual being. This is denied psychologically and biologically, {{Page \|n°=9}} e.g. you can't grasp a knife unless you relate yourself to space etc.

	The trouble is in a way the machine and television and the atom bomb. But why should this be so? Are we ot adapting our lives? Or are things getting worse?		The trouble is in a way the machine and television and the atom bomb. But why should this be so? Are we not adapting our lives? Or are things getting worse?

	P. doesn't believe that there is anything wrong with the "people" in a fundamental sense that makes it meaningless or unbearable.		P. doesn't believe that there is anything wrong with the "people" in a fundamental sense that makes it meaningless or unbearable.
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	The position with freedom must be qualified because of the Rousseauian position. There is a limitation which goes to the roots of existence, so there is no absolute freedom.		The position with freedom must be qualified because of the Rousseauian position. There is a limitation which goes to the roots of existence, so there is no absolute freedom.

	{{Page \|n°=13}} One must … […] ~~{{English to type}}~~		{{Page \|n°=13}} One must … […]

	My question: Is there a question … […]		My question: Is there a question … […]

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Santiago Pinault: /* The Great Transformation (2) */

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The Great Transformation (2)

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	{{Page \|n°=51}} Hayek's book was practically forgotten and didn't influence England at all. Tawney said we had had this discussion 100 years ago.		{{Page \|n°=51}} Hayek's book was practically forgotten and didn't influence England at all. Tawney said we had had this discussion 100 years ago.

	P. wrote the chapter on freedom in The Great Transformation as a religious position.In England he elaborated it and it looked as if he had a fascist position. It was on freedoms but the reality of society to its limits (Owen). P. hasn't moved much from this position in 14 years. Then in the Commentary article he came back to this question and developed the reality of society material to a point.		P. wrote the chapter on freedom in The Great Transformation as a religious position. In England he elaborated it and it looked as if he had a fascist position. It was on freedoms but the reality of society to its limits (Owen). P. hasn't moved much from this position in 14 years. Then in the Commentary article he came back to this question and developed the reality of society material to a point.

	The Great Transformation had many weaknesses, but it was structured rigidly with definiteness. [[#mw-page-base\|↑]]		The Great Transformation had many weaknesses, but it was structured rigidly with definiteness. [[#mw-page-base\|↑]]

Santiago Pinault: /* Text Informations */

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Text Informations

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	== Text Informations ==		== Text Informations ==
	'''Date''': May 25, 1957<br />		'''Date''': May 25, [[1957]]<br />
	'''KPA''': [[45/07]]		'''KPA''': [[45/07]]

Santiago Pinault: /* Robert Owen */

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Robert Owen

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+{{Page |n°=34}} Owen was a remarkable personnality. Everyone commented on it and the descriptions of the sweetness are unanimous. He was a great religious leader without hardly ever talking about religion. This stemmed from his resignation. He was prepared to close down Christianity.
 == The Reality of Society (3) ==