Abraham Rotstein, Weekend Notes IX - Revision history

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	== Money ==		== Money ==
	{{Page \|n°=23}} Money is ~~quantificable~~ objects in definite uses. ~~[…] {{English~~ to ~~type}}~~		{{Page \|n°=23}} Money is quantifiable objects in definite uses. How is it a means of communication or information? Its availability or presence creates a linkage between all situations in which this object and that figure can operate. It makes the money fit another quantity which it doesn't fit. For example for fifty dollars I can avoid being hanged. Also for running fifty miles I can get fifty dollars. If I paid fifty dollars I can avoid getting hanged. If I run fifty miles I can earn fifty dollars. Except for the fifty dollars there is no connection between running fifty miles and getting hanged. Only with the fifty dollars you have a possible connection. If you introduce into the situation a dog for which you can get fifty dollars, this possession of the dog will make it possible to write a number of dramatic plays about the thing. How I can decide if it's worthwile to run fifty miles and not get hanged and the various other combinations. If you don't make it fifty dollars but forty-none dollars there is no play at all.

	Now that does money do? On the face of it, money is either a means of exchange or payment. But by saying this you have say nothing about the money in the context of these situations. ~~[…]~~		Now that does money do? On the face of it, money is either a means of exchange or payment. But by saying this you have say nothing about the money in the context of these situations. For example, money is paid for not getting hanged and money is acquired for running fifty miles and money is a standard. To say a dog can do sold or fifty dollars makes it a means of exchange. Everything hinges on the quantitativity and the situations don't communicate. Then it turns out that they have something in common: the importance of the situation is measured by the fifty dollars. But this is only the consequence of the operational fact, otherwise there is nothing {{Page \|n°=24}} to connect them. But now we say they have the same importance. The possession of a dog is measured by fifty while one can say that otherwise the situations have nothing in common. If there is no money there is no alternativity.

	{{Page \|n°=24}} to connect them. But now we say they have the same importance. The possession of a dog is measured by fifty while one can say that otherwise the situations have nothing in common. If there is no money there is no alternativity.

	If a key fits my door and also the bank safe, it doesn't follow that these are equated. The key might open many different things.		If a key fits my door and also the bank safe, it doesn't follow that these are equated. The key might open many different things.
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	== ''Trade and Market'' (2) ==		== ''Trade and Market'' (2) ==
	P. is satisfied with the book - “Trade and Market”. ~~[…]~~		P. is satisfied with the book - “Trade and Market”. It was a fortunate conjunction of circumstances which made the book possible at this time. It would not have been easy to produce a better book. It would have been easy to go in a direction in which it can't be done. We might have been in a position to produce something different and it would not have served the same purpose but an inferior purpose.

	This symposium kind of method is very dangerous.		This symposium kind of method is very dangerous. Another book appeared recently with a symposium about the broader fields of the social sciences. It has excellent contributions from the point of view of scholars and writing.

	P. can't remember a new position being taken by a whole group so precisely. The crucial steps were taken in the last three months and molded into a unified whole with no repetitions or contradictions, with 90% unity of terminology. Many fortunate and semi-accidental circumstances combined.		P. can't remember a new position being taken by a whole group so precisely. The crucial steps were taken in the last three months and molded into a unified whole with no repetitions or contradictions, with 90% unity of terminology. Many fortunate and semi-accidental circumstances combined.

	Without the index of topics the book looses half of its value. ~~[…]~~		Without the index of topics the book looses half of its value. It helps to ascertain in what contexts there terms occur in the book. It is not possible to see where the definitions are consistent and inconsistent otherwise.

	~~After I had written my Introductory Note, … […]~~

	{{Page \|n°=26}} to questions which never were answered. (The concluding takes the same form.)		After I had written my Introductory Note, it was found that there were missing links and P. was compelled to produce answers {{Page \|n°=26}} to questions which never were answered. (The concluding takes the same form.)

	In some passages I took it further than before. The addition, by P. of other material to the Note, happened on the same level and it didn't prove impossible to maintain the level. [[#mw-page-base\|↑]]		In some passages I took it further than before. The addition, by P. of other material to the Note, happened on the same level and it didn't prove impossible to maintain the level. [[#mw-page-base\|↑]]

Santiago Pinault at 22:31, 5 December 2019

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	== Notes ==		== Notes ==
	<ref>It is announced in the table of contents a sub-part about the ''The Great Transformation'' but it is absent in the content.</ref>~~== ''The Great Transformation'' ==~~		<ref>It is announced in the table of contents a sub-part about the ''The Great Transformation'' but it is absent in the content.</ref>

	=== Interdisciplinary Project ===		=== Interdisciplinary Project ===
			On the question of underdevelopment economies, Boeke has … […]

			There is a confirmation of P.'s position in the oaths and counter-oaths of the Karum and is a proof of the treaties.

			P. will write a paper for the Oriental Institute symposium … […]

			Arensberg said that the project should take up money. P. agreed … […]

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	=== Pearl Harbour ===		=== Pearl Harbour ===
			Pearl Harbour was the failure of the American college system. […]

	=== Suez ===		=== Suez ===
			Although Eton may have won at Waterloo it lost at Suez. The British made two mistakes - to have landed in Egypt and then to have left. The second was worse than the first . Dulles is not denying that this was a brink affair. [[#mw-page-base\|↑]]
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	=== Dubarle ===		=== Dubarle ===
			Dubarle's position is ontological. He describes a world which is, and it is a Catholic position.

	=== Homans ===		=== Homans ===
			Homans of Harvard wrote a book on Marriage, Authority and Final Causes. P. suggests that I should see what he means and read it.

	=== Jews and Christianity ===		=== Jews and Christianity ===

Santiago Pinault at 11:26, 3 December 2019

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Santiago Pinault: /* Jews and Christianity */

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Jews and Christianity

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	=== Homans ===		=== Homans ===
	=== Jews and Christianity ===		=== Jews and Christianity ===
	[28+57] The reason for anti-semitism is that Jews are rightly charged with having brought Christianity into the world and then evading the consequence. (P. thinks it is true). The Jew thinks that the Gentil is pretty silly to be saddled with the religion. It is an unbearable burden.		{{Page \|n°=28+57}} The reason for anti-semitism is that Jews are rightly charged with having brought Christianity into the world and then evading the consequence. (P. thinks it is true). The Jew thinks that the Gentil is pretty silly to be saddled with the religion. It is an unbearable burden.

	P. always thought so. The Nazis said that Bolshevism was Christianity all over again and the Jews ought to be destroyed because they are responsible for Christianity.		{{Page \|n°=29+58}} P. always thought so. The Nazis said that Bolshevism was Christianity all over again and the Jews ought to be destroyed because they are responsible for Christianity. [[#mw-page-base\|↑]]

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	== Editors Notes ==		== Editors Notes ==

Santiago Pinault: /* The Mind (2) */

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The Mind (2)

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	There is no mind phenomenon which has not not something which logic call premises.		There is no mind phenomenon which has not not something which logic call premises.

	In aesthetics, law, ethics, mathematics, and in a number of other disciplines they register these arguments.		In aesthetics, law, ethics, mathematics, and in a number of other disciplines they register these arguments. [[#mw-page-base\|↑]]

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	== Money ==		== Money ==

Santiago Pinault: /* Human Society */

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Human Society

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	== Human Society ==		== Human Society ==

	{{Page \|n°=19}} ~~(The temptations in the New Testament is Satan who tested and tempted Jesus)~~.		{{Page \|n°=17}} Adam Smith gave body to a vision of society consisting of individual atoms.

	[[#mw-page-base\|↑]]		But there is an idea here which has never been developed (except for a faculty seminar). Why does the economist think that his concepts are generally valid even though it doesn't work for primitive or ancient societies? […]

			We are looking for an alternative and the reality of society is an alternative. We haven't got it and if we had it P.'s position wouldn't have importance. (No man knows what we leaves - Hamlet). The limits to which human society can be transformed are not known and the only way is to try to transform it. This is Owen's idea and that is the moral idea. It is live by Christianity or Buddhism and to find out the limits which the reality of society sets, and there no other way.

			Looking at it in a historical way there was the market utopia, fascism, bolshevism, and now we are mature by so much.

			{{Page \|n°=19}} The dialectic is a concrete one and is the common experience of mankind and what man has developed into. His common experience is what he has matured into.

			The limits can be found only in practice and not unless we try. This is the operational and pragmatic element. (Empiry is the testing of knowledge. Pirus is the Greek word for limit and Empiry is to put to the test).

			(The temptations in the New Testament is Satan who tested and tempted Jesus). [[#mw-page-base\|↑]]

	== The Mind (2) ==		== The Mind (2) ==

Santiago Pinault: /* Freedom and Technology */

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	== Freedom and Technology ==		== Freedom and Technology ==
			{{Page \|n°=7}} Everything leads back to the shape of inner life. This is axiomatic and is really linked to the question of what is inner life in the complex society.

			What is the complexe society? It is technology and that is where the idea of progress comes from. Also science comes from there. Science is an extension of this and the mind penetrates the physical environment.

			If we assume that technology is crucial and that inner life is the decisive factor we have to understand the position of an inner life in a technologically complex society. our conviction is that inner life is essential and there is also our adherence to science.

			Whitehead talked about the irrationality of facts. The strength of the epistemological position is examining these.

			The idea of progress is that of accretional knowledge and looking to the future (the Jewish-Christian position). Salvation and security lie in the future. P. thinks that eternity is the characteristic of compelling truth and wouldn't become more or less true in time.

			The complex society is not only complex because of the many firms in the telephone book (this is Arensberg's thought). What makes it so complex is the enormous degree of interdependence; we can't contract out and have where to go, and we remain dependent on these people for the next day.

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	== ''The Great Transformation'' and America (2) ==		== ''The Great Transformation'' and America (2) ==

	[[#mw-page-base\|↑ ~~Top~~]]		[[#mw-page-base\|↑]]

	== Freedom and Technology ==		== Freedom and Technology ==

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	== Human Society ==		== Human Society ==
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	{{Page \|n°=19}} (The temptations in the New Testament is Satan who tested and tempted Jesus).		{{Page \|n°=19}} (The temptations in the New Testament is Satan who tested and tempted Jesus).

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	== The Mind (2) ==		== The Mind (2) ==
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	In aesthetics, law, ethics, mathematics, and in a number of other disciplines they register these arguments.		In aesthetics, law, ethics, mathematics, and in a number of other disciplines they register these arguments.

	[[#mw-page-base\|↑ ~~Top~~]]		[[#mw-page-base\|↑]]

	== Money ==		== Money ==

	[[#mw-page-base\|↑ ~~Top~~]]		[[#mw-page-base\|↑]]

	== ''Trade and Market'' (2) ==		== ''Trade and Market'' (2) ==
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	=== Interdisciplinary Project ===		=== Interdisciplinary Project ===

	[[#mw-page-base\|↑ ~~Top~~]]		[[#mw-page-base\|↑]]

	=== Pearl Harbour ===		=== Pearl Harbour ===
	=== Suez ===		=== Suez ===

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	=== Dubarle ===		=== Dubarle ===
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	P. always thought so. The Nazis said that Bolshevism was Christianity all over again and the Jews ought to be destroyed because they are responsible for Christianity.		P. always thought so. The Nazis said that Bolshevism was Christianity all over again and the Jews ought to be destroyed because they are responsible for Christianity.

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	== Editors Notes ==		== Editors Notes ==
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	== Text Informations ==		== Text Informations ==
	'''Date''': April 6, 1957 (Interview)<br />		'''Date''': April 6, [[1957]] (Interview)<br />
	'''KPA''': 45/06		'''KPA''': [[45/06]]